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Default Ex Avery Harrington for auction

The UK owner of the ex Bob Avery Harrington is putting it up for auction. It had appeared for sale with a huge asking price early last year at a UK dealer.

The car underwent further work after returning to the UK to bring it closer to its specification that of the original Sebring racer. The car now has an FIA htp and has been race prepared.

It's an interesting car , would be a lot of fun and get some entities to good events but any buyer should be made aware it was a rebody and is now a tribute to the original Sebring racer using parts of the original car in its build.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/...n/1864913.html

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Good looking car, be interesting to see what it brings at auction.
That hemmings listing sure could use some paragraphs.....
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This car was a real hit at Invasion 1 and also at the TE/AE United at Covington,Ky in 2006. A local Sunbeam owner in southern Ohio was trying to buy it after Bob passed away and his family had listed it e bay. Some thought the family pulled the auction due to some controversy posted on several sites but the car was sold to a U.K. owner. It seems that the car is still a highly desired piece.
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The car has not been registered in the UK as far as I know. It never had a UK registration before because it was exported. This means it can be given an age-related reg and the SAOC will / may be asked by the DVLA if it is a representative example of the marque with all major components of the appropriate age - if this happens. There will be no question of what it might be. The racing hierarchy is happy for the car to be presented as something special because they get another entrant and fees for each race. A buyer may equally be happy to pay a high price and continue the perception because it is actually a very cheap way to enter all the prestigious events against real Le Mans Ferraris and Jaguars. Having said all that, there are E-types, XKE's, which have been re-bodied several times and no-one complains. You can buy an MGB shell and retain the classic taxation status here. It's all a mess really, and at the end of the day it's a case of how you feel. Personally I prefer open-ness but maybe it will still be considered super desirable even though the community knows all about it.
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There is no question the car is a series II alpine, so an age related plate would be fine, it's just that the body it has now was not the one that raced at Sebring and is a later build body than the original car.

It does have some parts of the original racer. I wish they would be more open about it, but then it would likely have some impact on value.

The current owner did a good job of correcting the detail to make it representative of the car as raced in 63 ( though the addition of the black wires while extra racy looking is not correct) . Since it started historic competition it's been obviously developed for performance, now much lower and engine developed but that's the norm as historic motorsports has turned into historic racing where the cars are now heavily developed beyond their period spec.

I think it's a great looking car, would be a blast to run and certainly get invites to great events , it's just that the only parts that crossed the line back in the day are the roof and a few sundry items.
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Is there documentation that the Harrington parts were transferred to another body? At what point does the replacement of body parts make it no longer the same car? This question comes up a lot at Sunbeam meets and car shows here in the states. No one ever has an answer.
I'm glad Ian turned loose of a rust free Harrington and my wife ended up with it. The body shop is really happy to be dealing with a car that only needs dents and factory high spots worked out.

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There is quite extensive and conclusive photo documentation that demonstrates there is a different body used in the restoration, not that the documentation was trying to show that.. it was someone just photographing their progress.

There were several key giveaways after the restoration, some have been rectified by the UK owner, others are still present.

As discussed many times, across different topics... It cones down to linage, especially when you are placing value in the history of a specific car.

Nobody denies this is a great car, probably even better now than after its first reconstruction and closer in detail to the original Sebring racer, but the car that crossed the line is gone.... In some ways it would have been great of the original rusted tub had been retained and could have stayed with the current reconstruction, that way if someone had the time , money and inclination the original could have been rebuilt.. a good example of this was the ex Kinder Knocker lightweight low drag etype
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I've looked the car over a few times. where can I find the photos? It would be interesting to see what was done. we own three Harringtons and I can tell you that they each have their little oddities. owners that have done a few bare metal total restorations understand what it takes to do it right. It's difficult to work with a lot of rust.
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For a Harrington It's Grandpa's old axe, or was it a Indian's the handle was changed 3 times and the head was too. It's a created car but a nice one.
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The same goes for tigers. there were around 400 harringtons built with only 250 sold by rootes dealers. that means they are a much rarer car than a tiger.

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